As is always the case when discussing candidates our audience might support, I’m certain to make a lot of people angry for posting this. Specifically, I will make supporters of Ron DeSantis upset, but I’m simply reporting two facts.
First, the 2020 presidential election was stolen. The mountains of evidence, videos, impossible statistics, and sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses tells us this. Joe Biden getting more votes than anyone ever, including more Black votes than Barack Obama, tells us this. Our common sense tells us this.
Second, Ron DeSantis believes Joe Biden won fair and square. I don’t need to convince anyone of this because he said it himself today. And while I stand shocked and very disappointed in a man I know, a man I generally like, leftist media is wallowing in it like pigs in mud. Here’s Rolling Stone:
RON DESANTIS ACKNOWLEDGED on Friday that many of the false claims promoted by former President Donald Trump in the aftermath of the 2020 election were “unsubstantiated.”
According to a report from The New York Times, while addressing reporters after a campaign event in Iowa, the Florida governor and presidential hopeful said that the “theories that were put out” following Trump’s election loss “did not prove to be true.”
“It was not an election that was conducted the way I think that we want to, but that’s different than saying Maduro stole votes or something like that,” DeSantis added. “Those theories, you know, proved to be unsubstantiated.”
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With DeSantis floundering in the polls, this could be a campaign ploy to differentiate himself from Donald Trump. Not sure the efficacy of such a move, but it’s been proposed. I believe this is a huge mistake, not just because I obviously and vehemently believe the election was stolen but because it’s a talking point that brings him in line with the UniParty Swamp.
Democrats deny 2020 election fraud. RINOs deny 2020 election fraud. Otherwise decent Republican lawmakers with no backbones avoid the topic of 2020 election fraud. But I know it happened and I’m pretty sure many of my readers do as well.
For DeSantis, the right answer to the question is that the 2020 election was stolen, but an acceptable answer is that he is focused on making sure the 2024 election is fair and that he wins it. By siding with The Swamp, he’s not doing himself favors with America First patriots. And maybe that’s the point. Maybe he’s fully embracing the McCain/Romney lane that allowed them to win their nominations. We’ll see how this plays out.
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Huge mistake by DeSantis. This calls into question his integrity, as the evidence for the stolen election was more than abundant. I thought he was better than this. He just lost my vote.
DeSantis will shortly be joining Pence and Krispy Kreme on the trash heap of the 2024 candidates.
Hopefully the people of Florida will come to realize just what kind of person they elected as governor and do a RECALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That ain’t gonna happen, he’s still a great governor.
The people of Texas G.W Bush Was a great governor to. Perceptions can be wrong .
He already has. Just a other pos
Me too.
Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
JD fails to mention that DeSimp cucked himself on the orders of an oligarch megadonor, Robert Bigelow, who required he take “more moderate positions for continued financial support.” Ron! is a wholly owned subsidiary of the donor class, having raised 85% of all money from special interest. While he prattles on about tranny bathrooms and high school aged boys in girls’ sports, he is in lockstep with the globalist uniparty on the three issues that actually matter to the health and well-being of the citizenry: globalist economic policy and market rigging by multinationals, wars of imperialism, and economic migration and open borders. Ron DeSantis is a Cultural MAGA crisis actor, embedded in the MAGA movement by the Establishment Deep State, with the goal of making MAGA safe for globalism.
Coming from the same place you are,, I “suspect” the election was stolen as well. But I’m curious, do you have any proof that would corroborate our suspicions? Probably not, and I sure don’t have any either.
So are you saying that Trump had the proof and presented it but the courts just ignored him? If so, what evidence and what courts did this? Was SCOTUS one of them?
You see, I don’t believe DeSantis was saying he was confident it was a fair election, what he was saying was there was no evidence or proof to establish that it was. But, hell, why look at things like proof and evidence when we have emotion!
Too bad that your darling boy just shoved his foot in his mouth, not only will he not be nominated for 2024, he won’t be for 2028 either…hoping the people of Florida do a RECALL to boot his fat butt out of there and put in someone who will do the job of Governor….
Calm down Karen. He’s got getting recalled.
Go back to watching MSNBC.
Frank, Frank, Frank. . . There is mountain of evidence that you have access to if you want, and no, the courts DID NOT look at the evidence. Attemps at court were stymied by the Lzwyers in black robes who denied standing, or cause, or proper procedure, or remanded appeals back to tge same corrupt courts who disallowed EVIDENCE in the first place.
You want to stand with DeSanctusn go ahead. It’s a fools errand. . .and you probably believe Pence was trying to save our country from the Trump scourge, right? Oops.
Come on Frank, are you really that dense. Not one single court case looked at any evidence. They were all dismissed out right based on lack of jurisdiction. If you look at what was going on at the time, no judge in the country was going to risk having his court house burned down by BLM while the police and fire department looked on, refusing to take any action. So none of the obvious evidence was even considered in any of the 60 cases the Democrats gloat about Trump “losing”. Cases were dismissed out of hand, not lost. No court ruled against Trump, they all simply refused to hear an election fraud case. Since the, multiple cases on the state level have proved that there was lots of election misconduct, not voter fraud, per se, but election fraud. Voters did not conspire en masse to cast fraudulent votes to elect Biden. Election officials conspired to cast votes for people that don’t typically vote (all the information to do that is available if you pay enough to get it). But if you really want to see how close the Democrats cut it, 43 electoral votes for 4 different states were decided by less than 80,000 votes. And in each of those 4 states, election officials broke election laws and made use of mail-in ballots to extend the counting until Biden finally achieved a razor thin majority of votes.
DeSantis knows all of this, so his comments are disingenuous. He needs to do better if he wants to win. If he was what he should be, then Trump would have no problem stepping aside, but DeSantis without Trump is a loser. That is becoming obvious.
Well put.
150,000 votes for Biden in the middle of the night in most of the 6 swing states convinced me that there was massive fraud. Vote tallies for corrupt Biden went straight north in an unheard of fashion showing the evil democRATs didn’t care how it looked, only that Trump had to be removed in the worst way. Die hards like you believe this was normal, it is not.
The courts refused to hear the evidence at all. It’s never been presented in court.
Well, he’s Dicksantis now.
At no point have I ever thought that Biden received 81 MILLION LEGITIMATE VOTES. And you will never convince me otherwise. I expect he received about 35 million votes. The rest was fraud. The man is an abomination.
Weren’t there a 1000 whistle blowers? Some counties in Penn had more votes that eligible voters. AND, I agree, no way, Biden got more votes than Obama. No way. Massive fraud.
Yes, more votes than voters, and yet the claim is there is no evidence of fraud. When people lie to your face knowing that you know they are lying, it’s time to stop giving any benefit of the doubt, because there is no doubt. Everything they say is a lie, you can count out it, and thereby discover the truth that you might not be able to determine otherwise.
Good. We have no time to waste on politicians in denial.
Ron DeSantis just fell on his sword with that nonsense. If he thinks he can nuance an answer like that, he is sorely mistaken. That comment will like drop him further in the polls and pretty much cemented my vote for Trump now. Too bad, because I genuinely like the guy.
Yea, but the Democrats will love him for a moment and the RINOs will fawn over him.
He’s pandering to the never Trumpers and just lost MAGA. He’ll never recover from this for 2024 or for 2028. Very disappointed in him.
It wasn’t stolen. Every court case was tossed out and there was no evidence ever put forth that proved it was stolen. Trump was out smarted plain and simple
It was never heard in court, and 2000 mules is very real.
If you honestly think they quit counting in 5 states Trump was winning in, and ended up losing, and Bitme got 81 million votes. Then your the one who got outsmarted.
Nothing was thrown out and despite all the denials there is a tranch of information that will soon be presented as evidence in a Federal Court thanks to these recent charges by Jack Smith. Bring the popcorn. These people all keep shooting themselves in the foot trying to one up ’45. I was looking forward to a possible DeSantis run in 2028 but now he won’t get my vote. He’s a good governor but not Presidential. I’ve been a Florida resident since ’85 and it’s been much better with DeSantis
Every single case was dismissed without reviewing evidence based on lack of jurisdiction. If that is not “thrown out”, then what would a “thrown out” case look like. But the terminology is beside the point. Not a single judge looked at or considered the validity of a single piece of evidence. So anyone who says there was no evidence based on courts not hearing the cases Trump brought is lying, plain and simple. Refusing to look at evidence is not the same as lack of evidence.
Unfortunately, the democrats had everything aligned for the steal. From ballot stuffing (2000 Mules)…to the questionable Dominion voting machines that can be hacked…to the reported votes for Trump being changed to Biden on the voting screen…to the after midnight issues that caused the counts to be delayed…to the taping of windows to prevent independent observers from witnessing the activities inside the voting centers…to the premature calling of the Arizona results. You can only look at the speed with which our country’s institutions and values have been destroyed to realize that this was a setup and the left had to insure a Biden win. Not so much for Biden…but for the deep state to continue the destruction of the USA>
+100% true. Knowing how the justice system works is one that 99% of the public have no clue. Judges are fearful of the throwback and look how the Byeden Admin constantly comes after SCOTUS! You would have to be deaf, blind and dumb not to be able to put 2+2 together.
Just lost my vote, I happen to live in the Villages, Florida, he’s in for a shock
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I’d vote for a rock before Rhonduh santis. If he is the nominee I stay home.
There are downballot races to vote on. These races are MORE IMPORTANT than the presidency. No one should be staying home.
Hope he knows this statement will kill his chances with any conservative.
The 2020 POTUS election was decided by less than 45,000 votes over 3-4 battleground states. We all saw what was going on in Detroit. Wisconsin changed the election law by allowing “election” officials to write their own rules against the legislative laws. PA, the same. And then, we saw the boxes and boxes of phantom votes being pulled out from under a table in Atlanta and ran thru scanners multiple times by 3 goons after all observers had left. There was the videos of vans pulling up to election headquarters at 3 am unloading boxes of ballots. Funny how all these ballots showed up with votes ONLY for Biden. No other down ballot selections. 10,513 dead people voted in Ga. The Dominion machines were proven to be vulnerable to being hacked and you could actually see the votes shifting from Trump to Biden in realtime. And the list goes on.
Geez, it’s almost like you saw the same thing I did. I wonder why the Democrats couldn’t see those things.
I pity the fool!
This is whats called “stepping on your d!ck”. He just lost any chance of picking up any hard core Trump voters and he will need a lot of those to win. At least he has the Governor thing to fall back on.
Hopefully not for long, they should do a RECALL and boot him out of there for not doing his job….
Whew………this is a big boo-boo by DeSantis. He HAS to know he’ll be alienating a large portion of the right side voter base. Even if he sincerely believes that Biteme won fair and square (which no way he did) with the political base he should have never vocalized this. Even the most banal individual knows there were massive irregularities in the 2020 election much less the 2022 rigging.
So what I find interesting is this; just yesterday it was “announced” that DeSantis agreed to debate Newsome on Faux News Hannity’s show. This likely a very pathetic pre-emptive announcement by him to deflect the obvious challenge that will be asked of him by either Scamminity or Newscum. For me this is just another example of DeSantis bending to what he thinks will make him look good to the swamp vs. thinking what would work rightfully for America First. No different than him lying about not running for President And having the law changed in Floriduh allowing him to run while still being gov.
He continues to show his true character and it is centered on him……not us
Anyone who believes that the bumbling, corrupt stooge in the white house got 81 million votes is as stupid as he is. Good people have had it – totally fed up. Something needs to be done, and it’s way overdue.
We’re almost three years into this turd-infested train wreck of a presidency, and to date, not one Republican has produced any legislation at all with regard to election reform. They’re afraid to even acknowledge that it’s a problem. Until election reform is real, whistleblowers, affidavits, videos, campaigns, donations, endorsements are a total waste. They mean nothing.
Your vote hasn’t counted for decades. And it still doesn’t.
I agree.
Completely agree!!
He’ll find out if he wins the nomination. The Dems are printing the absentee ballots as we speak.
Trumps win in 2024 will nail the coffin lid on Desantis’ political career for good. What a lying piece of S**t!
Well THE CAT IS IN A BAG
CAN’T MAKE THIS cHIT UP
KNEW HE WAS A RINO
DeSantis keeps proving himself a FRAUD. I’d never vote for him now.
Any doubts I had about DeSantis’ integrity or objectivity were reinforced with this revelation. His jealousy and dislike for Donald Trump overcame any devotion and sense of duty he may have had for the American people at some point. Does he actually believe the Democrats and RINOs won’t attempt to rig the next election too? He will never get my vote.
As usual, none of the Trump worshipers read what he said and took the headline at face value. He said the stories about voter fraud were “Unsubstantiated”. He did not deny that the election was stolen. You people are so sad that you simply have one thing on your simple minds and facts just clutter it up.
The stories were all substantiated by what we all personally saw on election night and the days that followed. For every story I heard, I experienced something similar that corroborated the story. I know people NV and PA who were told they had already voted when they went to the polls. None of what I know happened is based on anything Trump had to say. Trump is only echoing what we all saw. You make the fact that you are a liar obvious by assuming that people who agree with Trump are blindly following whatever Trump says to think. You may operate that way with your handlers, but most decent people in America don’t need to be told what to say and think.
I don’t really if he did say that, it’s an election cycle, players gotta play the game.
Stolen is also relevant as in “Hunter laptop story would have ENDED THE election in October had the ENTIRE MEDIA NOT LIED, so yeah it was STOLEN through lies (Lets not forget Barr or Wray could have went public with the VERY REAL LAPTOP and FAILED the American public by not informing them).
Stolen as in 5 States ALL STOPPED counting at Midnight, lied about why they had to stop, then preceded to count without election observers which is ILLEGAL in every State, then “Magically” 5 States within hours of each other have NEW NUMBERS that broke EVERY RECORD of overtaking an opponent when down by as much as Biden was. Not to mention Historic numbers show Trump should have been declared the winner before midnight and it was have ended the steal.
No candidate in the HISTORY of elections has LOST Ohio and Florida and won, PEDO JOE lost both.
No Candidate in HISTORY has WON Ohio and Florida and NOT been President.
Stats show impossible numbers for PEDO JOE that several MIT professors and one Oxford election professors said
the numbers do not work. Pedo Joe won HALF the Counties Obama did and somehow got 14 MILLION more votes even with much lower black votes than Obama. According to the Oxford lady Joe needed an 83% turnout to get the
numbers he ended up with based on registered voters, voter turnout in his Counties was around 53%.
I nor anyone watching election night 2020 had to be told it was “Rigged” by Trump or anyone else, we knew the minute all the blocked viewing windows happened, the FAKE water main burst, the boxes showing up in 3 States AFTER the deadline for ballot boxes to be turned in and AFTER all the poll watchers were told to go home and come back in the morning.
EVERYONE on the LEFT knows it was stolen and they DO NOT CARE. Poll after Poll shows the majority of Dems when asked “If the election was stolen are you okay with that”? they said YES they are okay because we had to get rid of Trump whatever it takes. The news knew it was stolen and DID NOT CARE.
DeSantis is mimicking Pence every time he opens his mouth. He loses credibility with each stupid statement he says.
Ron, Dinesh provided both forensic AND video evidence. YES, Video evidence of ballot stuffing WITH the names of the organizations giving them the ballots to stuff. There are so many people compromised (including the DOJ) and too many who are racist toward people who simply want to live by the Constitution. The people have little power. You think the people want to send 100’s of billions of $$ to Ukraine AND cause war? You think people want to be forced to take various medical shots to be allowed rights? You really think people are enjoying the highest interest rates in 40 years? High crime rates? Open borders? Inflation? High mortality rates in young people? Highest train derailments? Most factory fires? Most corruption? And FJB best accomplishment is probably hiring the most IRS agents ever, and I wonder why? AND the guy doing all this won with the most votes ever -with very little campaigning ?????? Yeah right, Ron.
The stolen election is abundantly self evident. Cheaters will cheat, and that does not surprise us, which is why we expected it, prepared for it, and braced for it like, especially in that critical election. What was not expected was the much greater treachery that came from those whose duty is to investigate and prosecute crimes indicated by this mountain of evidence. These people came highly recommended, were vetted and were extended the highest level of power and trust in their appointment to these high offices – appointed by a President who has been targeted like no other in history. Their treachery and betrayal is not against Trump, but of the American people and the Constitution. Its hard to imagine what crimes the Left has hanging over their heads to illicit such treason.
If anything, you have understated the treachery and corruption of the situation. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I’m afraid the only solution is to let the entire rotted corpse of the Federal government collapse and rebuild, a little wiser and a lot more cautious about letting any politician have any more power than absolutely necessary, and maybe not even that much. Maybe all elected officials have to clean the toilets every week, to keep their offices.
Joebama is doing just that now so HE and HIS can Build Back Better. Starting from scratch is not the answer, Defunding and dwindling their power to intrude in our lives will go a long way.
DeSantis just lost my vote on that statement. If he lost my vote, then he likely ost 20 percent of his supporters.
We all watched the fraud, mules, fake ballots, and compromised voting machines controlled from China. A child understood what was happening. They locked thousands of Republican watchers out and worked through the night to add fake Biden ballots in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin.
And even that wasn’t enough. They had to extend the counting 4 or more days before they could accumulate enough fake votes to overcome the massive lead Trump had in those “battleground” states. In the end, they only won the election by less than 80,000 votes total across 4 states.
He is right, they were not substantiated. An incompetent Trump failed to accomplish that task. Hopefully he does not screw up and continue to fail to substantiate the theft…
Sure, blame Trump for all the bad actions of Bill Barr, and Mike Pence, and every judge who chickened out and dismissed cases out of fear of their court house being burned down. Trump had zero help from anybody. And you sit there so smugly and act like it is his fault that politicians are cowards.
Many of those election fraud cases were dismissed by the courts due to the “lack of standing” by the people who filed the cases. Jack Smith foolishly just gave President Trump standing to use the discovery process to compel testimony and produce documents to pursue proof of that election fraud. I watched a giddy Alina Habba address that on TV yesterday. Sic ’em!
I wish what you are saying happens, and in a reasonably just world, it would, but I’ve seen what a crooked judge and prosecutor can do to perfectly, obviously innocent people. Jack Smith, and the judge in this case are two of the most evil and corrupt people in the country. Trump’s lawyers will be held in contempt of court every time they object and the prosecutor will object to every single thing Trump’s lawyers say. I think there is no way Trump avoids a conviction here. The corruption is too great. But they must be extremely careful, because Trump behind bars makes Trump a martyr, and if that happens, the game is over for the Democrats. If you don’t think the Democrats understand the power of martyrdom, just consider what they did with George Floyd, and he was not even a real martyr.
He’s even worse than I originally thought. Glad he made that clear so Americans can see that he’s on the side of the deep state.
I doubt that. But he clearly does not have what it will take to defeat the deep state.
DeSantis is clearly in the Paul Ryan camp
If Ron had shown a little bit of backbone these last couple of months he could have made a real run at the presidency. Because he did not, the only thing he accomplished, was reaffirming our decision to stick with Donald Trump.
Pence/DeSantis. RIP. August 4, 2023.
I love DeSantis as my governor but doing the bidding of the Democrats and claiming the election was won fairly by Joe Biden is a deal breaker for me. Americans know what they witnessed. Among literally dozens of examples and over 2000 sworn affidavits attesting to fraud, the most obvious is this: vote counting halted in five battleground states for the first time in history with Trump holding huge and growing leads, only to see them disappear when counting resumed, thanks to hundreds of thousands of Biden-only ballots. That is de facto fraud. I just lost any enthusiasm I had for his campaign. He is apparently another RINO.
The Deep State rigged the election that DeSantis says wasn’t rigged. How can DeSantis claim to stop the Deep State when he refuses to see it?
And just another very good reason why nobody should vote for Ronnie…. just another rino swamper… nothing to see here, just move on.
And another reason why his numbers are going down in the polling.
What DeSantis just stated, we call, “Stepping on your own D!ck” That did it for me. If Ron believed he needed to state that because it will give him an edge against Trump, his staff has shoved their opinions so far up his rear, he’s turned into a bloated Also-Ran. That was a very bad move.
I had great hopes for DeSantis as the governor of Florida for another four years and then run for President in 2028 when he had more experience under his belt fighting the good fight. Running against Trump now was extremely ill-advised and is exactly my point, a more experienced politician would have recognized that.
Ron DeSantis has no chance against Trump and was the wrong thing for the Republican party to allow because it could actually split the party WHICH IS DECIDELY NOT WHAT WE NEED NOW. THEY SHOULD HAVE ADVISED DESANTIS TO WAIT, because the people now see him as illadvised and uninformed. OUR ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT !!!
Ben Shapiro says Trump is “crazy” and “unfit be president” and that Biden won the election,
I always thought the ticket should be Trump/Desantis but I was wrong.The 8 week abortion rule will kill any national support he has.The lame.stream has already shown their attack line on Ronnie.He’s hates women, he’s a racist and he’s a White Supremest too.That trifecta of attacks from the left will kill all the blue city votes and assure his defeat.He has no path to 1600 by himself.I like the guy but he isn’t going to make it.
DeSancti is looking more and more dopey with each passing day. He doesn’t care if our national elections are corrupted as long as he can use it to get to power. And so what if this stupid ass bussed some illegals to Martha’s vineyard? That was just theater. If he really wanted to solve the illegal immigration problem, he would have bussed those a-holes back across the border.
THE JUDAS TICKET – DeSanctus and Pence in 2024
Ben Shapiro also PRAISED BIDEN for the Griner trade. Who cares what that constipated little loudmouth believes? Think for yourself.
Who is advising Ron, that person should be fired! Ron is kissing his chances good bye with every statement now….. You cannot alienate the MAGA or you won’t win. I am MAGA and I now will vote in this sequence Trump, Vivek, Kennedy….. De Santis better stop before he loses all respect from us, we liked him for 2028, not that is in question!
go home Ron and take care of Florida, you’re stealing from Florida citizens. You ARE NOT capable of doing two jobs at the same time, I’m beginning to wonder if you can even do one properly, but it’s evident you can’t do two.
DeSantis just lost any chance of getting my vote. He appears too cowardly to face facts.
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I predict he doesn’t even stay Governor now….. he’s essentially killed his political career.
He’s with Mike Pence now
I know Ron DeSantis is far more intelligent than that. He’s lying to himself for political reasons, just like Rand Paul and many others do.
Rand Paul isn’t a neocon toad, though. He’s just a beta male. Ok, that often accomplishes the same result, but still.
Well, if you didn’t think the “neocon toad” accusations were fair before, then you pretty much gotta reconsider, now.
So does Vivek and the rest of the field.