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There’s an interesting theory proposed by the folks at 119 Ministries that makes a lot of sense on many levels. I’m not ready to endorse this theory as accurate just yet, but it passes the initial test of exegesis in that there doesn’t appear to be a contradiction in the Bible pointing to the theory being invalid.
It speaks specifically about the seven seals of the book John saw when he was in the spirit on the Lord’s Day. He witnessed this book and a strong angel calling for someone to open it, but nobody in Heaven, on Earth, or under the Earth was able to do so. John wept, but then he was told look as the Lamb was successful in opening the seals.
Where was the Lamb when the original call to open the seals was made by the strong angel?
From Revelation 5:
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
The theory by 119 Ministries says that the Lamb, Jesus Christ, was not found in Heaven, on Earth, or under the Earth when the initial call was made because he was still in the process of being translated to Heaven. The period from his resurrection until the moment he stood at the right hand of God was a tangible amount of time in the Bible. Could this mean, as 119 Ministries proposes, that the breaking of the seven seals happened shortly after he ascended to Heaven? Could the reason he wasn’t found in the three places searched by the strong angel be that he was in-between Earth and Heaven at the time, then he proceeded to open the seals once he entered Heaven?
Again, I haven’t done enough research to confirm or debunk this theory, but my initial response is that there’s no evidence that I’m aware of that contradicts it. If it’s correct, then the opening of the seven seals started in our realm shortly after Christ’s ascension to Heaven. This would make sense as the effects of the four horseman of the seals seem to have been in a steady state of increase since that time.
As always, it’s our responsibility as Bible-believers to examine the scriptures and make conclusions based solely on the text of the Bible. What do you think? Was this first stage of prophesy in Revelation a time stamp for events then, now, and into the future?
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First off the 7 seals do not begin to be opened until the “end of the age” when Jesus said he would be returning. He opens those seals. In Luke’s gospel Jesus refers to his return and his “revealing” then. There is no indication that Jesus went anyplace by back to his Kingdom in the Heaven’s after he ascended into the cloud. That was the beginning of the age that is about 2000 years long.
In “Rev 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.”, it doesn’t make very good sense to translate the Greek “oudeis” as “man”. It would be more accurate to use another word equally usable as “not even one” or “none” or “nobody”. The reason I say this is because if it was definitely meant to be “man” the way we think of a “man” as a human it would have been the word “Anthropos”. However, part of why I say that is because there are no humans in Heaven. The only humans that get to go to heaven are those who overcome the world during the time of his return, when he is once again a “son of man” and that word “man” is Anthropos. Jesus said that in:
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man ((anthropos=human being)) which is in heaven.
No one was found “able” to open the seals on the new material (BOOK written from within the Throne) (again the new material because he said upon his return he would “speak plainly of the kingdom.” He has a human physical body again for that first stage of his return, shown in several places but one big one is where it’s said the Two Witnesses (who are both anointed (Christs)) deliver “prophecy” which means they speak the truth and are The Father in a Woman’s body (Rev 12) and he being “her” “Son” “she” births to the throne task that the Father was sitting on before then. That’s when He surfaces by himself and is shown as the conclusion of opening of the First Seal of the Book which is depicted in Rev 6:1-2.
He is the only one able to open the seal because it’s his assigned task given to him by the Father.
The ones he refers to as in the earth and under the earth are his student souls who are still human to some degree, the resurrecting of the just Jesus spoke about. The reference to “under the earth” is referring to the Luciferian fallen angel souls.
I know this will be a shocker, but the reason I can see so much is because I spent 19 years with the only genuine “Two Witnesses” who used the names in 1975 in the pubic eye, of Bo and Peep and then had the new names (Rev 3:12) finally as TI and DO who were seen by the public as the Heaven’s Gate “cult” which shocked the nation because of their choice to exit the human vehicles they had borrowed by their own hand (fell down in the presence of the Lamb) as it says in:
Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
The 38 students that laid down their human lives were the first fruit harvest of Rev 14 – the same souls who left everything behind to join with Jesus and follow him and deny their selves and take up their overcoming of humanness (and death) “cross”.
I wrote a book that does a new translation and new interpretation on all Jesus prophecy and the Book of Revelation. I provide it for free on my blog. Send me and email and I’ll give you the name and/or link to it. It’s very large.
I hope some can hear this as though it can be upsetting to the stomach it’s very pleasing to the mouth for those who have been waiting for this time.