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Evolution of a lie: ‘We’re not talking about taking guns away from people’

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Mass murder shootings have become all too common these days due in no small part to the destruction of society’s moral underpinnings by the nation’s left through the vestiges of cultural Marxism. They also revel in using such tragedies to advance their cause of depriving the people of their common sense civil right of armed self defense. Consequently, the minute one occurs the clarion call for even more people control will ascend from their ranks.

The past few years have seen their propaganda evolve and change, and this will be an examination of this evolution as well as a short reference list that puts the lie to their oft repeated talking point that no one is talking about taking guns away from people.

A reference list of lies

In the past, the gun grabbers rarely brought up Confiscationthe ‘C’ word. Back then, that was just for certain types of weapons with a divide and conquer strategy. At the time, the propaganda was epitomised by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif with this from a “60 minutes” interview on CBS: “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them — Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in — I would have done it.”

Never mind that the term “Assault Weapon” has no set definition and could be applied to any type of object usable as a weapon to assault someone.

Even as recently as 2011 it was a case of where the nation’s Left was trying to implement gun control “but under the radar”

The contradictory line has always been as Nancy Pelosi said recently: “We’re not talking about taking guns away from people”. They have to maintain this fiction because confiscation requires the precursor steps of ‘Intergalactic Background Checks’ and registration. The people wouldn’t accede to these measures if they knew it meant their property was to be stolen from them. This is why the gun grabbers have solemnly promised that ‘Intergalactic Background Checks’ won’t lead to registration. And why gun grabbers solemnly promise that registration wouldn’t lead to Confiscation, or the other form when they are made an offer they couldn’t refuse in the form of a mandatory gun “Buy Back”. So, the gun grabbers had to maintain the lie that the ultimate objective of their endeavour wasn’t their ultimate objective.

But times have changed and these days the gun grabbers strive to maintain the fiction that they aren’t talking about confiscation while they talk about confiscation. This will be a guide to their calls for the repeal of the 2nd amendment, confiscation, banning of guns or whatever phrases they have chosen to employ. There really shouldn’t be any sort of list given the line “We’re not talking about taking guns away from people”. But since the nation’s Left will often lie out of both sides of their mouth, it will be an abbreviated enumeration of most of the recent occasions when they expressed a desire for “taking guns away from people”.

As mentioned previously, Leftists had confined their gun confiscation dreams certain kinds of weaponry. For example, In March 2012 there was one author “themoderateman” on the site ‘The Daily Kos’, Who out of the sheer generosity of his heart was willing to mete out the people’s common sense civil rights, letting them keep certain guns… but taking everything else: Yes conservatives, we want to take away your guns…

Such magnanimous generosity over our fundamental human rights did not last for long, however, soon after came the re-election of Barack Obama and the horrific mass murder at Sandy Hook in December 2012 and the floodgates opened up. The nation’s Left saw that time as an historic opportunity to be honest about what they truly wanted. Keyword searches before the Fall of 2012 of such terms as ‘Confiscation’ ,‘Gun ban’, ‘Repeal the 2nd amendment’ yielded few results. December 2012 saw an emboldened Left dropping the mask and expanding reach of their confiscation desires to semi-automatic firearms – and that would essentially be most firearms.

Governor . Andrew M. Cuomo (D – New York) inaugurated the proceedings with the words “Confiscation could be an option.”

That turning point in gun grabber history had them calling for confiscation whenever possible and they have never looked back. The same keyword searches will yield a deluge of results, this will just be a short compilation of those results.

[Note: Due to the sheer number of references, this will be an abbreviated list confined to just the links and short descriptions in some cases from the main players in the gun grabber realm]

October 2017

(CNN)Sachs: Ban semiautomatic assault weapons and save lives

Rawstory: So few Americans understand what the Second Amendment is really about — or its dark history [repeal the Second Amendment.]
New York Times: The Cancer in the Constitution [2nd amendment]
Prospect magazine: Dear America: it’s time to grow up and ban guns

Plan A Magazine: Ban Guns. Amend the Constitution.
The New York Times: Repeal the Second Amendment
The Week: Ban guns
Eugene Robinson: Gun control should include buyback program like Australia’s

Dan Pfeiffer: What to Bring to the Gun Fight [national gun registry, Tracking and limiting purchases of ammunition and a national gun buyback program]
Washington Post Editorial Board : “President Trump, end this ‘American carnage.'”[Australian-Style Gun Ban]

July 2016

Clinton Delegate Explains How Democrats Will Ban All Guns

June 2016

Rolling Stone: Why It’s Time to Repeal the Second Amendment

December 2015

The New York Times: End the Gun Epidemic in America [First Front Page Editorial In 95 Years]
Huffington Post: We don’t need gun control. We need domestic disarmament
New Republic: It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
Salon: The Second Amendment must go: We ban lawn darts. It’s time to ban guns

November 2015

The Daily Beast: Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away

October 2015

Baltimore Sun: Repeal the Second Amendment
The Daily Kos: Effective Gun Control – A National Semi-Auto Ban

Hillary Clinton: “In the Australian example, as I recall, that was a buyback program.”…..“I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level”

Barack Obama: “We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it.”
The Washington Post: A gun-free society

U.S. News & World Report: It’s True, Democrats Want to Take Your Guns

June 2015

Sun-Sentinel: Don’t just get rid of flag, get rid of the gun, too

Please note that this was a transitional time period for the nation’s Left they had gone from just wanting to ban the undefined construct “Assault Weapon” to some wanting to ban semi-auto firearms, while others wanted to confiscate everything. Over time this would evolve to most leftists wanting a complete ban on guns in various forms.

January 7, 2015

Tallahassee Democrat: Stop the insanity: Ban guns

December 2014

Wisconsin gazette: Time is overdue to repeal the Second Amendment

June 2014

Barack Obama: “A couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that’s it — we’re not seeing that again. And basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws.”

May 2014

LA Times: Opinion You say gun control doesn’t work? Fine. Let’s ban guns altogether.

December 2012

House Dem: ‘Turn in your guns’
The Daily Kos: How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process

Curiously enough, all this talk of gun confiscation didn’t ameliorate the people’s fears of gun confiscation and they rose in opposition to the practice, joined the NRA,GOA and local civil rights organizations, bought more guns and stocked up on ammunition. As is usually the case, the fervor died down until the next ‘serious crisis’ took place and the demands for Confiscation began once again. This has been repeated every time with the demands becoming more and more numerous…


At this point in time the question has to be asked: Who HASN’T about taking guns away from people?

Differential equations teaches us that one can use the initial conditions of the present to extrapolate events in the near term balanced with the knowledge of the past. The interaction of technological advances and the march of history is fascinating. History can inform those willing to listen as to what will happen in the future because the laws of human natural are as immutable as the elegant equations of Newtonian physics.

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  3. Keith Smith

    March 30, 2018 at 11:02 am

    The day that they pass gun confiscation legislation is the day that the armed revolution begins. That is not opinion…

  4. Berzrkr50

    May 12, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    I’d much rather ban Democraps. They’re much more dangerous to America’s health…

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Culture and Religion

Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory: ‘Writing out’ Most Guns with the Bump-Stock ban.

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The latest Liberty grabber wave has crested, but Trump is about to give them a tremendous victory over the 2nd amendment.

Now that the Sturm und Drang of the March for gun confiscation has ‘died down’ it has become evident that, much like previous movements of the past, it came to nought aside from some localised suppressions of Liberty. The problem is there a vestige of this assault of freedom that is still rearing it’s ugly head, that of the infamous ban on so-called “Bump-Stocks”.

Those who are rightly concerned about this assault on Liberty can still inscribe their opposition with the Moonshine, Cigarettes and Fire-sticks bureaucracy [Better known as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms – BATF]  pushing through a new ‘law’ that all by himself, Trump has taken to “Writing Out”.  The deadline is June 27, 2018 11:59 PM ET for everyone to post their opposition to this ‘Law’.

First they came for the Bump-Stocks.

For those who may not care about someone else’s concerns over freedom, just be mindful of a reprise of Martin Niemöller Poem starting with the line: “First they came for the Bump-Stocks, and I didn’t object – For I didn’t care about Bump-Stocks…. Soon enough, they get around to coming after the firearms everyone else cares about, and eventually that will be hunting rifles or shotguns. If you chose to remain silent those guns will be “written out” as well.

But don’t just take our word for it, listen to what the Liberty grabbers have stated in bragging about the subject:

Delaney Tarr [March for Our Lives]

When they give us that inch, that bump stock ban, we will take a mile.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.):

Upon being asked if the bill was a slippery slope toward further gun restrictions, she said, “So what? … I certainly hope so.”

Apparently we’re not supposed to notice when the Liberty grabber Left broadcasts their intentions to the world. We’re supposed to let them get a foot in the door of a pretext for further bans before objecting.

Giving up the question.

David Deming over on the American thinker, Made the very important point that sacrificing one more time to the Liberty grabbers of what seems to be nothing is in essence:

If we agree to ban bump stocks because they facilitate rapid firing, we have given up the question. We have agreed in principle that any dangerous gun can be banned and confiscated by an arbitrary executive order. All guns are capable of rapid fire, and all guns are inherently dangerous. Pump-action shotguns can be rapidly fired and reloaded. Jerry Miculek can fire five shots from a double-action revolver in 0.57 seconds. High-capacity magazines most certainly facilitate rapid fire, so they also will have to go. A writer who wants to ban all “private individual ownership of firearms” recently argued that “even bolt-action rifles can still fire surprisingly fast in skilled hands.” He’s right. All magazine-fed guns will be outlawed.

Automatic redefinition.

In point of fact, the ATF previously ruled that Bump-Stocks [and presumably other ways of ‘bump-firing a gun – Fast fingers, Rubber bands and Belt-loops] don’t actually convert ordinary semi-automatic firearms to a “Machine gun” because the trigger has to be pulled for every shot. Now with the President’s authorising this linguistic legerdemain, this definition codified in the law has been blurred to the point that any gun that can be ‘Bump-fired’ could also be banned. However, they can’t very well ban fingers, belt-loops or rubber bands, so they will just ban each and every gun that can fire too fast.

Just ‘Write-out’ this legal requirement and Voila! Any gun that can be fired too fast for the sensibilities of the Liberty grabbers can be thought of as a “Machine Gun” and banned instantly – converting most of the 120 Million gun owners into instant felons. With a bit of training,  most guns can be fired faster, so in essence, letting them change this legal definition could have them ban just about every gun in existence.

The Takeaway.

One might not care about the fate of thousands of inert pieces of plastic or what happens to those who have them. One might not care if someone won’t be able to bump-fire a weapon in this particular way. But we on the Pro-Liberty Right will rue the day that we let this go through in exchange for nothing.

If we let the powers that be arbitrarily proclaim that some guns with these pieces of inert plastic are “Machine Guns’, the day will soon dawn when ALL guns are dishonestly ‘written out’ as the same. It will then just be a slippery slope to everyone having to undergo a background check, registration and of course – TAXES – on guns that we already own. Followed by the inevitable confiscation of those guns.

Those who remain silent now will only have themselves to blame when this happens – so now is the time to stop this dead in it’s tracks. The comment window is only open for a few more days [Jun 27, 2018 11:59 PM ET], make the best of it.

 

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Video Double play: Busting the gun grabber’s musket myth.

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Two videos that eviscerate the Liberty Grabbers ‘One shot’ musket myth.

It is a bedrock principle (if they have any) of the Liberty grabber Left that back during the ratification of the US Constitution the only weapons in existence were flintlock musket that took 5 minute to reload. Thus there wasn’t any school violence because it would have taken too long for the perpetrator to kill anyone.

As it typical of the lore of the national socialist Left, this is a lie of the first order. A previous video celebrated the “Assault Weapon” tricentennial, which was bit of the tongue in cheek variety since there were other repeating “Military Style” weapons in existence before this time period. These will be detailed in future articles. Meanwhile we present two videos that also bust the ‘Musket Myth’, one a short presentation from the Royal Armouries on the Jover and Belton “Flintlock breech-loading superimposed military musket”

Royal Armouries
Published on Aug 30, 2017
Curator of Firearms, Jonathan Ferguson, gives us a peek at the Flintlock breech-loading superimposed military musket, by Jover and Belton (1786)

This is a very relevant piece since the inventor Joseph Belton corresponded with the Continental Congress in 1777:

May it Please your Honours,
I would just informe this Honourable Assembly, that I have discover’d an improvement, in the use of Small Armes, wherein a common small arm, may be maid to discharge eight balls one after another, in eight, five or three seconds of time, & each one to do execution five & twenty, or thirty yards, and after so discharg’d, to be loaded and fire’d with cartridge as usual.

“It was demonstrated before noted scientists and military officers (including well known scientist David Rittenhouse and General Horatio Gates)”

This destroys the mythology that the founders had no knowledge of this type of repeating firearm technology that existed already.

The second is a humours dissertation on the subject from video raconteur Steven Crowder https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/

from a few years ago that also eviscerates this bit of Leftist mythology.

Published on Feb 10, 2015
People have been telling us for years that the 2nd amendment was written in a time of Muskets, and that it doesn’t apply to the evolved weapons of today. Is it true?

So why is this important?

Two primary reasons. One that these factual examples demonstrate that the founding fathers knew of these technological advances. Therefore, they destroy any Leftist pretences that the 2nd amendment be confined to muskets. Second that, school violence is something other than an issue of guns.

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Final pieces of the puzzle voiding the Second Amendment are ready to put in place

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It’s no mystery to the majority of liberty-loving Americans that politicians of every political stripe have been working feverishly to find new ways to restrict or eliminate our constitutionally protected God-given rights. And there has been perhaps no greater effort in their politically correct but unconstitutional agenda than their attempts to void in word and/or deed our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

While attempts to restrict gun ownership have existed throughout American history, the current movement got its footing from the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA). This law, a response to gangland crime during Prohibition, established a framework for the federal government to regulate specific types of firearms and accessories, and it imposed a tax on the manufacture and transfer of firearms defined by the Act.

Though amended by the Gun Control Act of 1968 to address a flaw that nearly voided the NFA, the law has been used to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions involving firearms identified in the 1934 law. Since 1968, the Firearms Protection Act of 1986, the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993, and the NICS Improvement act of 2008—which “improved” background checks required under the Brady Law—have also been added to the NFA.

As you can see in this very brief timeline, the old “slippery slope” adage is true. And in the aftermath of recent shooting events at public schools, the final pieces of the puzzle to void the Second Amendment are ready to put in place.

For example, the omnibus spending bill passed by the GOP-controlled Congress and signed into law by Donald Trump in March included the Fix NICS Act, a bill introduced by Republican Sen. John Cornyn. This so-called “improvement” to NICS gave the government power to deny gun rights to individuals for something as minor as a traffic ticket, and it laid the groundwork for the establishment of a FBI database of all gun owners.

With Fix NICS in the books, and with Republicans and Democrats in one accord on gun control, Washington is ready to take the next logical step toward voiding the Second Amendment—a Nazi Germany-style gun registry. If successfully made into law, these proposals will give the federal government complete control over every gun and gun owner in America, thus giving our Big Brother overlords the power they need to eliminate private gun ownership entirely.

Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) has introduced the Crime Gun Tracing Modernization Act, a bill that will require the federal government to establish a “searchable, computerized database” of all records pertaining to the sale, importation, production, or shipment of firearms. Though he hasn’t advocated a database system “yet”, Nelson’s GOP opponent, Gov. Rick Scott is equally as dangerous following his strong anti-gun position since the Parkland, FL high school shooting.

In the House of Representatives, Democrats have introduced the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act. If passed, it would prohibit gun ownership without a license and would require a valid firearms license to transfer and receive a gun. The bill would also require the US attorney general to maintain a “federal record of sale” system to track every gun purchase made in America.

From laws denying gun rights to adults under 21 years of age to the growing acceptance—even in Washington—of using Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPO) to seize firearms from individuals who haven’t broken any laws, many Americans have already lost their Second Amendment rights.

If anti-gun politicians in Washington have their way—and with no Constitutional conservative coalition to stop them, they might—all of America will soon know the reality of living in a country without a Second Amendment . . . and without liberty.

Originally posted on The Strident Conservative.

 


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