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After Trump gives Erdogan “high marks,” peaceful protesters beaten by Turkish security. Again.

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Free speech. Freedom to assemble. These are two important parts of American society, but they apparently have no place on American soil when Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is around. For the second time, his bodyguards and supporters used violence against peaceful protesters, this time at the Marriott Marquis on Times Square in New York City.

The Turkish leader is in town for the United Nations summit. Earlier in the day, President Trump gave him “very high marks” during a press conference.

“We have a great relationship as countries,” President Trump said. “I think right now we’re as close as we have ever been and I think a lot of that has to do with personal relationships.”

While being an “ally” and a member of NATO, Turkey has been increasingly aggressive with their outreach to countries opposed to the United States. They recently signed a deal to put Russian S-400 air defense missiles on their soil and have been reaching out to other BRICs nations to normalize trade relations.

This latest round of violence follows indictments against 19 people, including 15 members of Erdogan’s security detail, for attacks against peaceful protesters on U.S. soil in May. President Trump declined to answer questions about the indictments at the press conference, but President Erdogan said the U.S. President apologized to him. The White House denied it.

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Violence erupts during Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s speech in New York | Ariella Phillips, Washington Examiner

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/violence-erupts-during-turkish-president-recep-tayyip-erdogans-speech-in-new-york/article/2635236According to the New York Times, the New York Police Department reported that at about five protesters were “briefly” detained but not arrested. No injuries were reported to police.

Trump says Turkish president gets ‘very high marks’ | Nolan McCaskill, Politico

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/21/trump-erdogan-turkey-praise-242986“It’s a great honor and privilege — because he’s become a friend of mine — to introduce President Erdogan of Turkey,” Trump told reporters. “He’s running a very difficult part of the world. He’s involved very, very strongly and, frankly, he’s getting very high marks.”

MORE VIOLENCE against anti-Erdogan protesters on U.S. soil!!! [VIDEO] | SooperMexican, The Right Scoop

http://therightscoop.com/more-violence-against-anti-erdogan-protesters-on-u-s-soil-video/It’s pretty terrible that this tinpot dictator thinks he can beat up whoever he wants on American soil – hopefully they won’t get away with it this time either…

Trump Praises Erdogan, Ignores Question On Beaten Peaceful Protesters – Talking Points Memo

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-dodges-question-erdogan-guardsA reporter shouted a question about “violence against peaceful protesters,” seemingly a reference to several of Erdogan’s guards and others who viciously beat peaceful protesters during Erdogan’s U.S. visit earlier in the year. Fifteen Turkish security officials and four others were subsequently indicted in connection to the beatings outside the Turkish ambassador’s residence in DC. None of the Turkish guards have been arrested.

Erdogan claims Trump apologized over bodyguard attack – Axios

https://www.axios.com/erdogan-claims-trump-apologized-over-bodyguard-attack-in-d-c-2487317913.htmlThe quote: “Actually President Trump called me about a week ago about this issue. He said that he was sorry and he told me he was going to follow up about this issue when we come to the United States within the framework of an official visit. The protesters were insulting us, and they were screaming and shouting. The police failed to intervene properly.”

White House denies Trump apologized to Erdogan – CNNPolitics

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/20/politics/recep-tayyip-erdogan-donald-trump-embassy/index.htmlThe White House denies that President Donald Trump called Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to apologize for the violent incident that unfolded outside of the Turkish ambassador’s residence in Washington in mid-May when Erdogan’s bodyguards and supporters attacked peaceful protesters.

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This is just another indicator that the relationship between Turkey and the United States is deteriorating. The sooner we realize they do not want to be our friends except when it’s convenient, the more likely it is we can establish a contentious yet realistic and peaceful relationship. It’s time to stop pretending we’re friends.

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Intellectual ammunition, part 3: Armed with logic and a mistake by SCOTUS

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Intellectual ammunition part 3 Armed with logic and a mistake by SCOTUS

Is nuclear annihilation less of a threat than purchasing a lower parts kit?

In the third part of a multipart series, Gardner Goldsmith @gardgoldsmith of MRCTV addresses the issues surrounding Liberty Control, destroying some of the prevalent mythologies in the process.

Which is more intimidating: purchasing an inanimate object or the threat of gun confiscation?

In the beginning of the video, he asks the very pertinent question:

“Who engages in threats of gun violence, the civilian who owns, or attempts to own, a firearm, or the civilian or politician intent on passing ‘gun control’ statutes?”

Which is quite an interesting point in light of the comments from Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA) who wants the government to make gun owners an offer they can’t refuse on their freedom. Rejecting said offer could see them and millions of other die in a thermonuclear style gun confiscation.

That threat being just the latest of the long list of over 70 instances of Leftists demanding gun confiscation. Note that number could easily be doubled or tripled if one were to account for the number of times those demands were syndicated or excerpted in other publications.

The video details the point that it is the people wanting to impose controls on freedom that are threatening violence – up to and including nuclear genocide. But perhaps if one if of the Liberty grabber set on the Left it’s possible that someone having a scary looking rifle is far more of an issue than the wiping out of an area via nuclear incineration with fallout contaminating everything down wind.

The illogic of so-called ‘Gun-free’ zones.

Further on he addresses question of whether the passage of more and more restrictions on freedom and setting up ‘gun-free’ zones keep people safe? Consider the scenario he proposes in how a mass murderer might select is his target:

And what of the idea that, practically, passing gun statutes will make areas safer? In Part One of this series, we looked at the real-world numbers on that question, but here is a logical argument to pose to gun-grabbers.

Suppose you are in a paintball game. You have a paintball gun, and you will win $10,000 if you enter one of three houses and, in five minutes, hit ten people with pellets. If you get hit by a pellet, you will have to pay $200,000… There are forty people in each house. In House One, you know that there is no one with a paintball gun. In House Two, you know that there are a few people with paintball guns, and in House Three, you know that there are many, many people with paintball guns.

Which house would you choose?

The answer is obvious. Let’s not be foolish about pretending that we would choose anything other than House One.

The logic of self-protection through firearm possession and use is irrefutable. The statistics of it are clear. The history of despots disarming citizens prior to destroying their lives is also clear, as is the history of what the Founders thought when they wrote the Second Amendment.

 

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When gungrabbers like Eric Swalwell say they respect the 2nd Amendment, don’t believe them

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When gungrabbers like Eric Swalwell say they respect the 2nd Amendment, don't believe them

It’s a lie. Every time, it’s a lie. Most leftist gungrabbers will add a note at the end of their gungrabbing rhetoric by pretending to respect the 2nd Amendment. They want you to think they’re pushing “common sense” gun control, because who doesn’t like common sense?

There isn’t a lick of common sense in any gun control measure. Anything that could have been considered common sense gun control, such as the Gun Control Act of 1968 that kept regulated interstate commerce to hamper mail-order gun purchases, have already been put in place. Anything going forward that appeals to common sense is unnecessary and damaging to the 2nd Amendment.

Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA) once said he respects the 2nd Amendment.

“I support gun safety measures, and I’ll tell you, I grew up in a family of gun owners and hunters, and I went hunting with my dad as a kid, and you know, I have deep respect for the Second Amendment and the culture of our country.”

His statements on Twitter yesterday said all we need to know.

 

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Gun rights activists: Stop acting like we don’t hold every high ground

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Gun rights activists Stop acting like we don't hold every high ground

Forgive me if I offend any of my fellow gun rights activists. It’s my intention to educate, not irritate. But I’ve become increasingly annoyed by arguments that play into the leftist agenda. We have the high ground. When you have the high ground, you don’t go down to the enemy’s level. We hold the high ground.

We hold the moral high ground. For every mass shooting incident that takes lives, there are dozens of stories that don’t get nearly the same attention but demonstrate how gun owners prevent crimes. They’re out there defending themselves and others from people who would do them harm.

We hold the intellectual high ground. Where do most gun crimes occur? Where gun laws are obtuse. Chicago is the shining example of how obtuse gun laws prevent citizens from defending themselves. How often do we see gun violence in gun free zones?

We hold the historical high ground. The first thing a government does before turning against its people is take away the people’s ability to defend their rights. One of the most common leftist arguments is that Americans have no reason to fear oppression from the government. This is a backwards argument as it has been shown on multiple occasions that the government was hampered from oppressing American citizens because of the presence of weapons. It’s naive to think the government would never try to oppress us. History shows they already have at times and certainly will again in the future.

We hold the constitutional high ground. This needs no explanation.

We hold the emotional high ground. This is hard for most to understand since it’s emotional responses to mass shooting that usually prompt calls for gun control. That’s exactly why we hold the emotional high ground. As long as we remain consistent and stop operating in the leftists’ emotional echo chambers, we can maintain control of the emotional argument. It’s easy for people to be affected by senseless violence, but that’s no reason to ignore common sense or logical discipline.

What gets to me is when gun rights activists start making arguments such as logistics. I cringe every time I see stats about how many AR rifles are owned. The argument that there are so many out there it would be impractical to take them away is ludicrous. It’s like saying, “You may be right to want to take away guns but it would be too hard.”

The push for gun control is gaining momentum. We cannot give the gungrabbers an inch. We don’t need to. Our arguments are righteous. The only way they’ll win is if we let them distract us and bring us down to fighting on their level.

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